Dec 03, 2007, 07:06 PM // 19:06
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#101
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: :D:D
Profession: D/W
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Originally Posted by Shadow Spirit
/notsigned
To all positng in these various threads that you are loyal/Devoted/playing since beta, this promotion wasn't about that. It was about spending 29$ in the on-line store during the months the promotion was running-period.
To all posting that it wouldn't hurt Anet as a company to realease these missions for sale, I say, yes it would. Then all of us who believed them when they said that this was a LIMITED promotion would feel cheated and be less likely to participate in the next promotion that they offer.
To all posting that you are being prevented from accessing essential lore, you really aren't. These missions don't really reveal anything that we didn't already know from playing the games. It's more about HOW those things happened. Example- Master Togo ended the Tengu Wars. We already knew that from playing Factions. The BMP just lets us see how it happened.
To all of you who have legitimate reasons that you couldn't access the BMP, I'm sorry. I honestly hope things will work out better for you on the next promotion.
To all of you who are whining now that you regret that you CHOSE not to participate- think twice next time.
-SS
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Amen to that.
Again ill say it- like every other QQ Thread regarding the BMP,
boohoo, you had your chance, tough luck. i really feel sorry for A-net, they announced for ages, seriously how much more advertising do you need? they want people to use the online store...they didn't want to "reward loyal customers" - for those who say they are loyal - why did you buy the boxed version then if you knew this was on offer?, for those who had legitimate reasons for not being able to qualify - truly sorry, better luck next time...as for the others, do your business studies, and then come back.
/notsigned
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Dec 03, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06
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#102
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Academy Page
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Guild: SNOW (GoW)
Profession: W/
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/not signed
However, I have no objections to Anet offering the BMP as part of another promotion in the future.
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Dec 03, 2007, 09:27 PM // 21:27
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#103
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Krytan Explorer
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Wow, are you stupid? Like honesitly ARE YOU A RETARD?
Arena Net has developed an amazing product with some of the best animations, graphics, skins, audio and lore in the game and you expect them not to sell it? You expect them to screw over everyone who purchased it and give it to you for free? Do you lack basic buisness skills?
Arena Net has a hot product that is in high demand. They are the only ones who can sell it. Of course they are going it sell it, and make a crapload of money. I'm sure Arena Net is going to say no we don't want to make thousands of dollars off our product, let's give it away for free thanks to this guys thread on gwguru.
EPIC FAIL!
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Dec 03, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08
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#104
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Europe
Guild: Temple Of Love
Profession: R/E
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i agree with every solution that remove the reward weapons from mission pack be costumized
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Dec 03, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14
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#105
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Alcoholic From Yale
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]
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/notsigned
This was meant to give players a nice little bonus for using the online store.
no
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no
NO U
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Dec 03, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17
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#106
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Wilds Pathfinder
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If it does become available I better be able to get the divine aura and all the prophecies preorder weapons. It was a bonus for the people that got it, I would like the preorder weapons but that wouldn't be fair for people who had the game and bought an extra key to get the items.
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Dec 03, 2007, 10:20 PM // 22:20
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#107
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Censored
Guild: Censored
Profession: R/
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/NOT SIGNED
Sell it in the ONLINE store at some point in time YES, but just open it, NO WAY.
It was developed to promote the ONLINE store, so the only way to get it should be through the ONLINE store.
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Dec 03, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25
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#108
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2006
Guild: [MnN] Chocolate Sweet Chocolate
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
/NOT SIGNED
Sell it in the ONLINE store at some point in time YES, but just open it, NO WAY.
It was developed to promote the ONLINE store, so the only way to get it should be through the ONLINE store.
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I agree, fair enough i'd much prefer they just did it as a free update but they didn't. But they should put it up for sale in the online store again. Heck they'd only make more money by doing that. :P
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Dec 03, 2007, 11:37 PM // 23:37
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#109
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: United States of America
Guild: The Seven Deadly [Sins]
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I disagree wholeheartedly with this. And no. I didn't get the BMP. I didn't spend the 29.99. Didn't want anything from the online store.
Why can't people get it through their skulls that it was a SALES PROMOTION. Like all the other examples given. "Buy a large pizza on Monday and get free breadsticks!" "Okay, it's Wednesday, I WANT MY BREADSTICKS. For free! Okay, you can leave out the dipping sauce. GIMME MY BREADSTICKS." "...." (Pizza=29.99 purchase; Breadsticks=BMP; Dipping sauce=weapons)
Ugh. Seriously guys! It was a LIMITED TIME OFFER. "But...but...I want it after the time ran out!" Tough luck, like others have said, you had THREE MONTHS WARNING. >_< Jeez.
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Dec 04, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23
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#110
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [FaRM] Farm For The Win
Profession: N/
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Like so many before me...
You have had your chance to get it from the online store.
Temporary Promotions means just that.
No need to come back afterwards and nag your ass off just so you could get it as well.
Alwyas the same with the ones who didn't get it or didn't need to get it in the first place (OK there are exceptions) but for the bigger crowd this is a fact.
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Dec 04, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33
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#111
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Banned
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona
Guild: The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]
Profession: R/
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/not signed
The point of the BMP was to earn it by spending so much on the online store. Then you get access to the missions and the weapons. The people who earned it will be very angry if Anet suddenly gave it to everyone for free even without the weapons.
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Dec 04, 2007, 03:48 AM // 03:48
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#112
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Forge Runner
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i tihnk they should have it for people that had spent 30+ dollors on the online store not suring that time period and get the bmp but no weapons..
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Dec 04, 2007, 12:41 PM // 12:41
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#113
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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What's so special about the weapons so others can't have them in a lot of people's eyes? They're just a bunch of random weapons with nice skins.
Anet should just do the special offer again with some other items in the ingame shop. They happy, we happy.
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Dec 04, 2007, 01:11 PM // 13:11
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#114
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: USA
Guild: DMI
Profession: N/
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You'd better watch out...not cry...not pout.../not signed.
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Dec 04, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32
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#115
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2006
Profession: E/
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I would pay for it, if they offered the thing as a stand alone item in store for around £2.99 - £5.00. But I down-right refused to pay £29.99 in the store just to get access to the BMP for free.
I want my copy of GWEN in a nice box and I didnt want to pay more online just get 4 extra missions and some weapons. Offer it as a stand alone item instore and ill buy it for a cheap price.
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Dec 04, 2007, 03:42 PM // 15:42
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#116
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: The Illini Tribe
Profession: N/Mo
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Option A - Never offer the BMP again
Pros:
(Anet) - The next time a promo like this is offered, participation will be much higher.
(Players) - Players who got the BMP have access to great content, and permanently exclusive, great looking weapons.
Cons:
(Anet) - No further revenue is possible from BMP.
(Players) - Players who didn't get BMP for legit reasons permanently sealed off from fantastic (albeit brief) content and great looking weapon skins.
Option B - Offer the game for $5-$20 from in game store in several months.
Pros:
(Anet) - Extracts more revenue from BMP.
(Players) - Players who missed out first time get access to content and weapons.
Cons:
(Anet) - More players will take a "wait and see" approach to future promotions.
(Players) - The rarity and coolness of BMP weapons will be significantly reduced for those who qualified for the original promotion. The weapons market will take a further hit, and the incentive to quest and do high-end dungeons will be reduced.
Option C - Mission Pack at No cost to all players, but no weapons for those who missed 1st offer.
Pros:
(Anet) - ?
(Players) - Players who didn't qualify for BMP get missions and great content. Players who did qualify for BMP get continued exclusivity of rare weapons. Weapon trading market not further hurt.
Cons:
(Anet) - No further revenue from BMP. Reduced incentive for people to participate in future promotions as main content will be assumed to become eventually available for free.
(Players) - Cool skins still unavailable for those who didn't participate in initial offering.
First off, I have the BMP, so the greedy part of me wants to keep the rarity of my acquisition. I tried to be objective about the pros and cons of this suggestion versus the other main options out there.
My conclusion is that although I think the OP's suggestion (option C) is the best overall idea for the most number of players, there is really no benefit in it for Anet. A moderately less-agitated player base only does Anet so much good.
On balance, I still think option B makes the most sense - although it is far from perfect.
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Dec 04, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02
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#117
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mancland, British Empire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdallw32
Why can't people get it through their skulls that it was a SALES PROMOTION.
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QFT.
Hey man, if they're all smart like you and me. We'll be living in peace and harmony, the world would be a much better place and we'd get the F off this planet by now.
/not signed
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Dec 04, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32
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#118
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Las Vegas
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I'm all for Option B.
The promo was for a free BMP, provided conditions were met.
In a few months they can sell a non-promotional BMP in the store for, get this: not free.
Heehee.
I'd buy that for a dollar. Or twelve. Twelve ninety-nine. $12.99, yeah.
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Dec 04, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34
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#119
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Wilds Pathfinder
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option d never give it out again <---most likely
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Dec 04, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20
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#120
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Academy Page
Join Date: Dec 2006
Guild: Dragonic Killers
Profession: A/
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Anything and everything you do will have people crying and whining.
Rerelease it with no Weapons: People will complain about not getting a reward. Besides, these missions aren't very fun at all, but thats just me.Imho, If theres no reward, theres no point in wasting time on the mission.
Rerelease it for a fee: People will just end up complaining that the people who buy the BMP later end up paying for it, and the people who bought it first got it for free. Thus, the late-buyers have the arguement that they had to pay for something that should be free. (And for the people who argue that buying 29.99 worth of character slots doesnt make it "free," you got 3 character slots, the BMP just came with them.)
Never Rerelease it: People complain that they didnt get it. Simple as that. It was a PROMOTION. It's like saying "Hey! I missed a sale on this car! The person who bought it during the sale got $2000 off, give me $2000!" It's not how businesses run. Anet wants to make money, not give it away.
Just my opinion, just don't respond with YOU STUPID NUB...etc.etc.
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